Stray Notes on WCG day three

– CDE and Gameburg Team have made it through their brackets and are playing in the grand finals tomorrow. CLG and Jerome_NEGGRET are playing in the bronze match.


– There’s been this whole looming specter of the CDE disaster and how that was handled haunting this tournament, at least for most of the North American viewers (I don’t know how much the European audience cares, maybe they do, but I hate to assume stuff). You can try and apply that narrative to the games between CDE and Dignitas, and act like this whole thing expunges it. It doesn’t really, it’s just another game. But at the same time for the two teams to actually meet and for CDE to win out after losing the first game feels great, cathartic even.

– It was questionable whether Gameburg Team was supposed to make it out of their group play. The German team was certainly more well known. But they did, while Team ACER didn’t even get to bracket play. Then they beat two respected teams with victories against the hometown South Korean team and the defending champion Canadians.

Their games against Epic Dive Gaming weren’t streamed, but against CLG they played ultimate stacking teams with heavy AoE crowd control. Their second game had Gangplank (area slow ult), Nunu (area slow ult), Morgana (area stun ult), and Kennen (area stun ult). Once those ults were stacked properly CLG didn’t have a good response.

– Surprise Pick: Nunu support picked by Gameburg Team twice against CLG, won both times. This has been on the bubble for a while. I think a lot of players think that if his ult is stopped the yeti will only somewhat useful, but the secondary benefits of the hard slow, zoning opponents out of a huge area, and drawing stuns towards a non-damage champion are all very helpful. Of course, the damage is better, because the damage is insane (1125 at lvl 3!), but the way it forces opponents to react is a very helpful tool and means it can have a good impact on fights even when stopped.

Another thing about Nunu. I just realized that blood boil and ice ball are near perfect opposites of each other (increasing/decreasing attack and movement speed). Also both are great.

– CLG, who typically love poke comps, played a lot of Twisted Fate today, merely for the long range card pokes. Their first game against Invictus Gaming they won largely off the back off spear and card pokes. There was hardly any team-fighting as Invictus just kept on getting damage from pokes and never picked a good spot to engage. What I’m saying is that poke comps can be boring to watch. Why can’t you be more like Dignitas’ double assassin builds?

– Surprise Pick: Jungle Karthus picked by Jerome_NEGGRET, lost. Players have known about jungle Karthus for a long time, but no one’s ever wanted to try it on the big stage. These Frenchmen are brave though. Most niche junglers are slow at the jungle, but Karthus is the opposite really, one of the fastest junglers out there. With all that extra time France’s jungler just camped top constantly putting pressure on Dyrus. Karthus’ ganks are obviously strong once you hit a wall and Dyrus had trouble dealing with it. Most of the downside with Karthus is that junglers never get as farmed as laners (although I don’t know how this changes with the new jungle).

– CDE and Ezreal had a Corki vs. Ezreal lane today. Corki versus Ezreal is basically the old caster ranged AD versus the new caster ranged AD. Corki is part of those old ad carries we hardly see any more like Ashe. Ezreal is the new crowd. But despite coming from two different worlds they are very similar:

1. Tend to build Trinity Force
2. Have a pocket flash which deals damage
3. Have a enemy debuff + damage move
4. Have a small attack steroid passive
5. Have long range skill-shot poke

– Gameburg Team buys Mejai’s on Karthus against CLG. Only dies once during the entire game. Mejai’s is a “win-more” kind of item, in that it tends to be useful only if you’re winning in the first place. The game has natural snowball mechanics which already hit pretty hard, adding more to the snowball isn’t that useful and just adds risk, which is why competitive player’s often pass snowball items over. On the other hand I’ve wondered if some champions natural ability to nearly always get kills (like Karthus) would be actually useful with Mejai’s. Gameburg Team seemed to think so for this one match at least.

– Reginald going mid with Karthus sees a team of Kog’Maw, Udyr, Janna, Galio, Talon and wisely brings exhaust. The best players are always adapting. CDE also brought in another exhaust because almost all of France’s damage was physical based.

– Here is the picks and bans that I got down.

Dignitas vs. Chicks Dig Elo Game 1

Bans:Yorick, Kassadin, Karthus
Picks: Gangplank, Janna, Morgana, Ezreal

Bans: Ryze, Udyr, Sona
Picks: Graves, Lee Sin, Alistar, Singed, LeBlanc

Dignitas 1-0

Dignitas vs. Chicks Dig Elo Game 2

Bans: Yorick, Kassadin, Karthus
Picks: Gangplank, Janna, Vayne, Morgana, Fizz

Bans: Ryze, Rumble, Sona
Picks: Graves,Udyr, Soraka, Gragas, Lee Sin

Tied 1-1

Dignitas vs. Chicks Dig Elo Game 3

Bans: Yorick, Karthus, Kassadin
Picks: Udyr, Janna, Ezreal, Akali, Katarina

Bans: Ryze, Rumble, Graves
Picks: Sona, Gangplank, Corki, Gragas, Lee Sin

CDE 2-1

Gameburg Team vs. Counter Logic Gaming Game 1

Bans: Nidalee, Graves, Kassadin
Picks: Karthus, Alistar, Tristana, Nasus, Nunu

Bans: Udyr, Xerath, Morgana
Picks: Soraka, Vayne, Gangplank, Twisted Fate, Olaf

GT 1-0

Gameburg Team vs. Counter Logic Gaming Game 2

Bans: Nidalee, Graves, Kassadin
Picks:Vayne, Nunu, Morgana, Gangplank, Kennen

Bans: Alistar, Xerath, Karthus
Picks:Udyr, Tristana, Sona, Ryze, Skarner

GT 2-0

Chicks Dig Elo vs. Jerome_NEGGRET Game 1

Bans: Ryze, Rammus Janna
Picks: Sona, Corki, Udyr, Trundle, Gragas

Bans: Yorick, Graves, Lee Sin
Picks: Karthus, Gangplank, Alistar, Caitlyn, Sion

CDE 1-0

Chicks Dig Elo vs. Jerome_NEGGRET Game 2

Bans: Ryze, Rammus, Graves
Picks: Karthus, Gangplank, Trundle, Corki, Alistar

Bans: Yorick, Lee Sin, Gragas
Picks: Kog’Maw, Udyr, Janna, Galio, Talon

CDE 2-0


2 comments on “Stray Notes on WCG day three

  1. 123 says:

    Nunu support is Empire’s invention, they used him on IEM qualification versus SK :>

    • Yeah, v8 was running Nunu support with Kog’Maw in practice games before that too, but you’re right Empire is the first one to pull him out on a big stage. He’s won all three of the games he’s been pulled out too.

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